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Old 11-04-2010, 06:24 AM
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Isn't the Polo tiny? Like smaller than a Mini Coopa?
Fiesta/Mazda 2 sized.
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:11 AM
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I realize that the 75 mpg isn't a common everyday driving result, but I also don't see any US production cars getting mpg above the 30's even hypermiling. I don't think they are trying to do better, especially regarding trucks. Performance is a diversion that tricks people into wanting hundreds of horses and 0 to 60 in 5 seconds. I've never understood why, daily driving doesn't call for movie chase scene hijinx.
My point was to show an example of what VW is aiming for regarding efficiency. The Big 3 and Japan could do as well if they cared to improve their mediocre products. The Prius and the Volt are a good start. The next refinement, adding a diesel generator to charge the battery that powers the four electric drive wheels should surpass both cars' efficientcy and technology. And solve the 8 to 12 hour charging time and range-fear issues handily.
Toyota, Honda, VW, Hyundai, Ford, GM and likely some others make cars in the US with US labor (final assembly at least) that get over 30 mpg (highway anyway)

I do agree 100% that 0-60 in 5 seconds is silly for the family hauler or work vehicle. Its overkill in 25 mph zones and bumper-to-bumper traffic we are all in, but it does seem to sell cars and since that is all the automakers are in busines for that is what they'll do.

Unfortunately trucks won't improve until two things happen.
1) they get significantly more aerodynamic (better highway mpg)
2) lighter to improve city mpg

Number 1 will likely take priority since it is cheaper to do and has the highest number for marketing purposes. Number 2 is going to be a much harder proposition and hopefully it doesn't continue to get ignored.
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:26 AM
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I agree, and got a chuckle from the just arrived GV joke email.
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