Major Doubt

[topgut]

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After reading the press release from GV I really think we will not see a Mahindra truck in the US for several years. Oh well, still waiting.

I feel bad for the dealers who are ready to sell these machines.

M&M should take care of these guys if they care. They are afterall putting resourses to get ready etc.

Chaos seems to be in full flux here.


Focus on the potential consumer and disregard the legal BS and you will succeed in a big way.

Just my thoughts...........J

[MahindraPlanet]

Major Doubt, please salute General Concern…

Mahindra has a steamroller mentality and things apparently work much differently in India than they do in the US. They are very used to getting their way and not being held accountable when things don’t go their way. The gravity produced by their egos appears to allow Mahindra to think the earth revolves around them. Do a Google search on “Keshub Mahindra Bhopal” for an example of this.

In truth, I think the trucks will get here fairly soon. Maybe not in December, but shortly after depending on parts availability (total speculation here). I think the dealers are fortunate enough to have GV legitimately concerned about their well being and as a buffer between them and the dorks in Mumbai.

I’m sure that GV has completely offended Mahindra by filing a lawsuit against them. That was Mahindra’s first reality check that entering the US is a different beast altogether. I doubt if an Indian company would even dare to sue mighty Mahindra. What has been their response? We’ll ignore the lawsuit and issue a press release saying that GV’s contract is null and void. Problem solved. Their corporate philosophy is that they are entitled to this market, entitled to do things however and whenever they want to, and entitled to cut down anyone in their way (especially bloggers). Maybe I’m just bitter because they keep going after me personally.

The good news is that even though Mahindra is the laughing stock of the US automotive scene, small trucks, and small diesel trucks are now on the public radar. All of this Mahindra dilly-dally has given other manufacturers plenty of time to sit back and take in the scenery (whilst giggling about how dumb Mahindra looks) and come up with plans of their own. Whatever Mahindra does, we’re all going to benefit in the end methinks.

[pee wee]

It's not a private matter, but I have more than a kernel of doubt.

I couldn't agree more, MP. I think the lawsuit started by GV was a slap in the face of the juggernaut M&M- totally unexpected, and the Mahindra press release was a childish come-back. Maybe it jumpstarted the process of delivering trucks, though.

[stove warrior]

Originally Posted by pee wee

It's not a private matter, but I have more than a kernel of doubt.

I couldn't agree more, MP. I think the lawsuit started by GV was a slap in the face of the juggernaut M&M- totally unexpected, and the Mahindra press release was a childish come-back. Maybe it jumpstarted the process of delivering trucks, though.

I totally agree with you . Yet it would be nice to hear an annoucement of starting production commence. Being so closed about their final product has had some negative repocussions. But let's hope everything works out. And also get these units into Canada . It would also be nice to see some t.v. adds bye for now

[Dfreakyindian]

in indian culture they dont believe on telling people about things before they happen because they believe that it won't happen then. I'm indian and only 13 (live in NY), but my mom believes it (though my dad doesnt). Also, apparently the dealers have already recieved tools and manuals for the trucks, so im hopeful

[claykorn]

So is there any concern that a strained relationship between the supply and the distributor will cause issues with supply of parts or delays in getting warranty service due to the unavailability of parts or technical support from the supplier?

[MuttonChops]

Doing business in or with India based companies may not be as easy as all the job out-sourcing press and activity implies. This recent news article on a company bringing their production back to U.S. from India has some interesting remarks that could be part of the M&M vs. GV vs. will we even see a truck drama.

Part of the article:
. . . Customs taken for granted in the United States often don't apply overseas. For example, an American considers the bargaining over once an agreement is signed, but Bailey said there is a saying in Asia that "the negotiations begin after the contract is signed." U.S. firms find that Asian companies will sign most any agreement because they expect to bargain for what they want later, he said. . . .

Maybe GV was not as 'India business' knowledgeable as they first thought.

link
Business & Technology | More U.S. businesses abandon outsourcing overseas | Seattle Times Newspaper

[MuttonChops]

So with the likelihood that contract negotiations have just really begun between GV and M&M. Just what do all the recent GV web site updates (press section, dealership list) really mean. Are the trucks coming or just more positioning as they negotiation?

Time for action not words . . . . . .

[pee wee]

So here's another shot: Atlanta Company Claims India's Mahindra Interfering With Financing

The allegation is that Mahindra has attempted to interfere with the financing arrangements of GV.

I know it is a gross characterization of cultures, but a car saleman I knew said when an Indian customer came in the door they'd all make themselves scarce- the assumption was they were going to be so difficult to deal with that the commission wasn't enough of a compensation.

[ToxicSludge]

Hell will be completely frozen over before I ever buy any m&m product.They can kiss my truck buying a$$ goodbye.