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Old 10-04-2009, 02:18 PM
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The simple fact is, Mahindra cannot and will not place their truck for sale in the United States until one of two things happen.

Either congress lifts the Chicken Tax (that's 25% sales tax per truck to you, the consumer), or Mahindra sets up shop here on US soil and begins production of American built Mahindras.

Boys and Girls, until one of those things happen, you can forget about the nameplate Mahindra & Mahindra.
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Old 10-06-2009, 12:37 PM
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The simple fact is, Mahindra cannot and will not place their truck for sale in the United States until one of two things happen.

Either congress lifts the Chicken Tax (that's 25% sales tax per truck to you, the consumer), or Mahindra sets up shop here on US soil and begins production of American built Mahindras.

Boys and Girls, until one of those things happen, you can forget about the nameplate Mahindra & Mahindra.

Actually that sales tax is, economically wise, will be split between the consumer and producer. (EDIT. But they wont have to pay chicken tax with the ohio assembly plant) I respect your opinion but I would appreciate some sort of source to back up what you say.

From where I stand, it seems that for Mahindra, it would be worth the cost to fill a market that all the other truck companies are ignoring. Also, they are going to make the parts in India and then assemble them in Ohio, therefore getting around the chicken tax. What say you?
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:46 PM
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Sounds good to me! Bring it on!
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Actually that sales tax is, economically wise, will be split between the consumer and producer. (EDIT. But they wont have to pay chicken tax with the ohio assembly plant) I respect your opinion but I would appreciate some sort of source to back up what you say.

From where I stand, it seems that for Mahindra, it would be worth the cost to fill a market that all the other truck companies are ignoring. Also, they are going to make the parts in India and then assemble them in Ohio, therefore getting around the chicken tax. What say you?

Here, hope this works out.
Global Vehicles lobbying to end Chicken Tax for Mahindra pickups — Autoblog Green
Or, if you feel really adventurous, try Google: vehicle chicken tax - Google Search
3,000,000 plus links and it really shouldn't take a ton of research to uncover general knowledge.


As far as the Ohio thought...
On the Union factor alone, that would have to qualify in its best sense as insanity. Its worst as fiscal suicide.
Mahindra needs to avoid states that are overrun with corruption and the Union money machines, lest they travel the same road as GM and Chrysler.
Now if you said Tennessee or Alabama, we could talk. The only question is, and I don't have a clue to the answer, can they ship the components over unassembled, then re-assemble them here on US soil? Would that be legal?
Seems if that was the case, VW would be selling their own vans here as opposed to re-badged Chryslers.


And last thing, please don't attempt patronize me when we both know that's an outright untruth.
Good day to you, sir.
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Here, hope this works out.
Global Vehicles lobbying to end Chicken Tax for Mahindra pickups — Autoblog Green
Or, if you feel really adventurous, try Google: vehicle chicken tax - Google Search
3,000,000 plus links and it really shouldn't take a ton of research to uncover general knowledge.


As far as the Ohio thought...
On the Union factor alone, that would have to qualify in its best sense as insanity. Its worst as fiscal suicide.
Mahindra needs to avoid states that are overrun with corruption and the Union money machines, lest they travel the same road as GM and Chrysler.
Now if you said Tennessee or Alabama, we could talk. The only question is, and I don't have a clue to the answer, can they ship the components over unassembled, then re-assemble them here on US soil? Would that be legal?
Seems if that was the case, VW would be selling their own vans here as opposed to re-badged Chryslers.


And last thing, please don't attempt patronize me when we both know that's an outright untruth.
Good day to you, sir.
There was no attempt at a condescending tone in what I wrote to you. I thought that maybe you were speaking from a source and was interested to see if it did indeed have any merit. I am merely relaying what I have read myself. Mahindra Plans to Assemble Light Pickups at Ohio Plant - WSJ.com . I was able to read this for some reason before, now I'm not. Anyway, it was saying that the Ohio Plant was going to be built in order to get around the chicken tax. This is just a rebuttal to your posting.

From what I'm reading on your end, it seems that they will have to still pay a chicken tax of 4000 roughly for each vehicle. What is untold truth is weather an Ohio assembly plant will allow them to evade the chicken tax, or simply not pay as much. I have to write an essay tonight, but I will research that sometime soon.

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Check it out and get to the bottom of it if you can. The Ohio plant talk is old news, and has already been shot down. Mahindra's not talking to anybody other than to tout the party line, which is nothing more than a load of crap.
No hard feelings.
Oh, what did you get your degree in?
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Check it out and get to the bottom of it if you can. The Ohio plant talk is old news, and has already been shot down. Mahindra's not talking to anybody other than to tout the party line, which is nothing more than a load of crap.
No hard feelings.
Oh, what did you get your degree in?
I'm a junior currently majoring in Business Management with a concentration in Entrepreneurship with a minor in Computer Information Systems. I'm glad there's no hard feelings .

Well the article I posted before was about a year old, so I decided to look for new information. At INTERVIEW - M&M may decide on U.S. plant by mid-2010 | Business News | Reuters I found that they are still undecided on what they are going to do, but it all depends on the demand this first year. If a demand picks up then they will start assembling their pick-ups here more than likely. So my guess is that they would contract someone to assemble the trucks in the USA to avoid the chicken tax, if sales picked up that is.

I also found out the Wall Street Journal mystery. Supposedly they want to keep getting traffic from search engines so if you click on a WSJ news feed via google, you will be able to view the whole article, and I believe the same goes for NYT. The Wall Street Journal's Web site is already (secretly) free - Machinist - Salon.com
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My son's a senior at North Texas this year. His major is accounting, and this'll be one happy camper when he's done.

Oh, and deciding on a plant site in mid 2010 means nothing will come from the site until mid 2012.

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Old 10-08-2009, 05:21 AM
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It is a frustration that Mahindra isn’t more forthcoming with information and status. I’ve addressed this on MahindraPlanet and with them directly, but change is slow to happen.

I wish GV would set up a blog on their site with regular updates. Why not stick themselves and Mahindra out there. If they are having trouble passing an emissions test, blog about it. If they are visiting a town in Ohio to look at a manufacturing facility, tell us about that too. If they have recently visited the factory in India, show us some photos. I think they would be surprised how much support they have. If they have problems, I bet the community would still rally around them, and maybe even offer assistance or solutions. Why not make Mahindra in the US a crowd-sourced brand with input from fans and perspective customers?

Alas, I’m an engineer. So what do I know about marketing…
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The only question is, and I don't have a clue to the answer, can they ship the components over unassembled, then re-assemble them here on US soil? Would that be legal?
Why wouldn't it be? Diamler-Benz has been doing this with Sprinter Vans for several years now.
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