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Old 04-18-2010, 04:36 AM
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I test drove an 03 Tacoma 4X4 yesterday and I noticed it felt much more cramped inside then my Subaru Baja. I didn't look at the specs of both vehicles, but I'd wager they are roughly the same width so the cramped feeling was more perception than reality. I am trying to figure out why the Tacoma felt so much narrower. The big difference is height. I think you sit 4 or 5 inches higher in the Tacoma.

If height can make the truck seem smaller, Mahindra may have an issue. If you look at the specs, a Mahindra is about the same height as a F150 and width of a Ranger.

On another subject, I thought all the bad press Toyota has been receiving may have resulted in a little humility at the Toyota dealer. I was wrong. The asking price on the Tacoma was about $2K over NADA retail. I didn't make an offer, but the salesman implied the price wasn't negotiable.
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"On another subject, I thought all the bad press Toyota has been receiving may have resulted in a little humility at the Toyota dealer. I was wrong. The asking price on the Tacoma was about $2K over NADA retail. I didn't make an offer, but the salesman implied the price wasn't negotiable."

Toyota sales are going through the roof right now, which makes it pretty clear that the general public no longer believe a damn thing the mainstream media says.
About time the people started waking up.
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[QUOTE=sirmombo;5029]I test drove an 03 Tacoma 4X4 yesterday and I noticed it felt much more cramped inside then my Subaru Baja. I didn't look at the specs of both vehicles, but I'd wager they are roughly the same width so the cramped feeling was more perception than reality. I am trying to figure out why the Tacoma felt so much narrower. The big difference is height. I think you sit 4 or 5 inches higher in the Tacoma.

If height can make the truck seem smaller, Mahindra may have an issue. If you look at the specs, a Mahindra is about the same height as a F150 and width of a Ranger.
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Every time I get into a Tacoma, I feel like I'm sitting on the floor, and my head still scrapes the ceiling. I've never checked directly, but I've always thought that the cab on those things was squatty. I don't get that same feeling from the Ranger, or any of the big boys...
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Old 04-19-2010, 02:44 PM
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I test drove an 03 Tacoma 4X4 yesterday and I noticed it felt much more cramped inside then my Subaru Baja. I didn't look at the specs of both vehicles, but I'd wager they are roughly the same width so the cramped feeling was more perception than reality. I am trying to figure out why the Tacoma felt so much narrower. The big difference is height. I think you sit 4 or 5 inches higher in the Tacoma.

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Did you try a Bench seat or one with Buckets and a center console.

I find then vehicles load up so much stuff in the middle of the car where we used to put people all the leg room goes away and forces a cramped feeling

You lose a lot of room with all that stuff in between
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Here it is with a bench,


Big Difference

Oh, I just noticed this was about an 03 tundra, these pics are from the current tundra
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:57 AM
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I felt the same thing when I drove one. Really cramped feeling inside.
However, if you want a REALLY cramped feeling, go drive a Honda Ridgeline. That thing feels like you're crammed into a submarine. Really, really tight fitting.

My Tundra feels MUCH more airy in the cab. I also hate the dash in the Taco's. I'd much rather have a nice, open gauge cluster instead of those cheesy looking circle looking gauges. It comes off as really "plasticky" to me.
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I drove the one with the 60/40 split bench. It has a fairly big console in the middle. I am still not sure why the vehicle felt much smaller and more narrow inside than it looked from the outside. I am sure if you measured the vehicle it was more perception than reality.
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This has nothing to do with the cramped feeling in some trucks, but about bench seats in general. It took many years before it became obvious, but with the regular (non-split) bench seats there is a big drawback. I was on a long (eleven hour) drive recently in the Nissan pickup with my wife- she doesn't really like riding in a truck, but it was necessary this time. I asked her to help out with the driving, so when it was her turn she adjusted the driver's seat . . . you guessed it, I was practically crushed against the dash board because she needed the seat so far forward. Like I said, this doesn't happen often, but it is a major inconvenience when it does. I'll never buy another truck with a full bench seat.
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This has nothing to do with the cramped feeling in some trucks, but about bench seats in general. It took many years before it became obvious, but with the regular (non-split) bench seats there is a big drawback. I was on a long (eleven hour) drive recently in the Nissan pickup with my wife- she doesn't really like riding in a truck, but it was necessary this time. I asked her to help out with the driving, so when it was her turn she adjusted the driver's seat . . . you guessed it, I was practically crushed against the dash board because she needed the seat so far forward. Like I said, this doesn't happen often, but it is a major inconvenience when it does. I'll never buy another truck with a full bench seat.
most new trucks with bench seats are 40/20/40 split so both the driver and passenger can adjust the seats seperately. Its a none issue now.
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